Posted by: thaishin | September 18, 2019

What does that glory mean in John 17:22?

Question on moody radio Chicago on openline on September 7, 2019:

Can you explain what Jesus meant by glory in John 17:22. “I do not ask on behalf of these alone,” this is Jesus praying to God the Father, “but for those also who believe in me through their word, that they may all be one, even as You Father are in me and I in You, that they also may be in us, so that the world may believe that You send me. Here’s the verse specifically that Chris is asking about, ” The glory that you have given me, I have given to them, that they may be one, just as they are one, I in them and you in me, that they may be perfected in unity, so that the world may know that You send me, and love them even as you loved me.” So, when Jesus talks about that glory which you have given me, I have given to them, what does he mean by that word?

Answer from Dr Michael Rydelnik:

Well, you can just look back at verse 5 and it talks about how the Father glorify me in your presence, with that glory I had with You before the world existed, isn’t that kind of amazing? Here, God Incarnate, God the Son Incarnate, who gave up that glory, didn’t give up that Godness at all but it’s veiled in flesh, He says now glorify me and that’s the glory of perfection, perfect holiness, and then what He says here in verse 22, “I have given the glory you given me, He says Father give it back to me and he told his disciples, I am going to give them that glory, but I don’t have it yet, we just have ours positionally, but one day, we are going to be glorified, that’s going to come a time, this is hard for me to believe but I won’t sin and not only will I have the imputed righteousness of Jesus but one day when I stand in His presence, it will be with the glory He has shared with me, that’s what we are talking about we are justified, we are being sanctified and one day we will be glorified because of what He has done for us. I don’t have a hard time imagining Eva glorified or you Tricia glorified, I have a real hard time considering me, because I know how wicked I am but it’s an amazing thing that Jesus prays for us and assures us and by the way, positionally, in God’s eyes, we are already like that, which is just amazing. Positional truth is true truth. So, in Romans 8, for example in verse 17, seeing that we suffer with Him so that we may also be glorified with Him, but then here’s what interesting, in verse 30, Romans 8, those he’s predestined, he’s called and those that he called, he also justified, justified means declared righteous and those that he declared righteous or justified, he also glorified. So, he’s talking about those of us who are believers and there it says not only have we been declared righteous but we have also positionally been glorified, it refers to something in God’s eye it’s already done so we can be assured that it will be done in the future when we are in glory. It’s kind of a cool thing.

John 17

20 “I do not pray for these alone, but also for those who will believe in Me through their word; 21 that they all may be one, as You, Father, are in Me, and I in You; that they also may be one in Us, that the world may believe that You sent Me. 22 And the glory which You gave Me I have given them, that they may be one just as We are one: 23 I in them, and You in Me; that they may be made perfect in one, and that the world may know that You have sent Me, and have loved them as You have loved Me. -nkjv

John 17

1Jesus spoke these words, lifted up His eyes to heaven, and said: “Father, the hour has come. Glorify Your Son, that Your Son also may glorify You, as You have given Him authority over all flesh, that He should give eternal life to as many as You have given Him. And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent. I have glorified You on the earth. I have finished the work which You have given Me to do. And now, O Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was. -nkjv

Romans 8

12 Therefore, brethren, we are debtors—not to the flesh, to live according to the flesh. 13 For if you live according to the flesh you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live. 14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God. 15 For you did not receive the spirit of bondage again to fear, but you received the Spirit of adoption by whom we cry out, “Abba, Father.” 16 The Spirit Himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God, 17 and if children, then heirs—heirs of God and joint heirs with Christ, if indeed we suffer with Him, that we may also be glorified together. -nkjv

Romans 8

28 And we know that all things work together for good to those who love God, to those who are the called according to His purpose. 29 For whom He foreknew, He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the firstborn among many brethren. 30 Moreover whom He predestined, these He also called; whom He called, these He also justified; and whom He justified, these He also glorified. -nkjv

Posted by: thaishin | September 12, 2019

When was the Passover Feast?

Question on moody radio on August 31, 2019 from openline:

In John 18:28, it says they took Jesus from Caiaphas to the governor’s headquarters and it was early in the morning, they did not enter the headquarters themselves, otherwise they would have been defiled and unable to eat the Passover. She asked: Hadn’t Jesus just eaten the Passover with his disciples? Did they celebrate the Passover at a different time? Please clarify.

Answer from Dr Michael Rydelnik:

Jane, you are a good reader. You know how many people read that and never pick up that there seems to be some sort of confusion as to what was going on?

Eva Rydelnik:

Chronological or …

Dr Michael Rydelnik:

It’s one of the reasons why the synoptic all present the gospel as this is the last supper at the Passover slater, Passover meal where as some people say John doesn’t. Well I think John does too, I think they have all the elements of that dinner that they have, that seemed to indicate like in John 13, the special washing, all sort of things that goes with the slater. So, that’s projected the same. So, it’s pretty good observation, Jane. A lot of people miss that.

Here’s what I think the answer is. It’s an answer found in the book by Harold Hoehner. I mentioned this book probably more than any other book because I get a lot of chronological questions. This book is called “Chronological aspects of the life of Christ”. Dr Hoehner was a great chronologist and a great bible scholar. He was my mentor for my master thesis and he’s with the Lord now. I so value what I learn from particularly this little book he did. It’s a really tiny book, still available but through Zondervan. What he points out, the way he resolves this seeming contradiction is that the Judeans, people from that area and Sadducees priesthood, the priesthood were all Sadduceans, they counted the time when time Passover started differently than when people from Galilee and the Pharisee started. The Pharisees would have started Passover the evening before, the Galileans follow that. So that’s why the animals were sacrificed just before sunset and then you have dinner. Where as the Sadducees and the Judeans, they sacrificed the animals right around mid day the next day and then they would celebrate Passover and eat the Passover afterwards. And so even though that was when they thought it because there were so many people that were needed to offer sacrifice at Passover, every family were supposed to do it, they allow this to spread out the number. So, even though they ran the temple, they allow some sacrifices that they thought were too early because that’s when the Pharisee and the Galileans thought they would be. So, for that reason, though Jesus and his disciple were from Galilee, they had celebrated the evening before, the Sadducees and the priesthood would not have done it until after the trial of Jesus, which was on the next day, Good Friday. The Lord Jesus would have died when the Sadduceans sacrifices were being made. So, I hope that satisfies the apparent contradiction.

John 18

28 Then they led Jesus from Caiaphas to the Praetorium, and it was early morning. But they themselves did not go into the Praetorium, lest they should be defiled, but that they might eat the Passover. -nkjv

Posted by: thaishin | September 5, 2019

Seven different eras of the church?

Openline program on moody radio on Aug 17, 2019:

Question from listener:

I have been doing a bible study in Revelation and they are going through the seven churches and the leader of the bible study sort of inferred something I haven’t researched or studied before, he was saying that the churches are not just the seven literal churches and they are not just spiritual significance for the churches, but possibly they foreshadow the seven different periods of church history, so I was wondering if you could expound on that a little bit and talk about that theory a bit.

Answer from Dr Michael Rydelnik:

There are some people who hold this view. I think that the structure of the book of Revelation. In Revelation 1, it says” Write the things which you have seen, the things which are, the things which shall be. The things which you have seen is chapter 1, the vision that John has seen of the Lord Jesus. Chapters 2 and 3, the things which are, so he’s writing, not prophecy there, he’s writing a description of the situation as it is with the seven churches of the book of Revelations and the things which shall be, that begins in chapter 4 and goes to the end of the book, which is the futuristic prediction of the book. And so, it seems to me that it would be a mistake to see the seven ages, I don’t know where Mike stands on this?

Dr Michael Vanlangningham:

I actually agree with you. As you read through the letters to the seven churches, I don’t see anywhere in it that in each of these individual letters where there’s an indication that John is writing and the Lord is telling him to write about different ages in historical periods of the church. As you read through that, I rather get the impression that he really is talking to the church in Ephesus or Laodicea or Sardis or whatever. That’s the first thing I would say. The second thing I would say is you have churches like this throughout every period. Churches that were cold, churches that were being beat up and persecuted, churches who let Jesus back into their fellowship. So, you got that in every single age. It seems to it is not right hermeneutically or interpretively, you don’t really have keys that leads us to understand this as different eras of the church.

Posted by: thaishin | August 29, 2019

Genesis 27:40

Question from listener on August 17, 2019 on open line moody radio:
I have always wondered what Genesis 27:40 meant? After Jacob gets the blessing by the seed and then Esau says to his dad: “Do you have only one blessing my father?” and then his dad describes all the things that he will serve his brother and then he says it shall come about when you become restless and you shall break his yoke from your neck. What does that mean and happened? Also wondering do you know who his descendants are today?

Answer from Dr Michael Rydelnik:
Well, we know who his descendants became, they became the Edomites and they live across the Jordan river. Though they were brother nation, because Jacob and Esau being brothers, that was one of God’s complaints by the prophets about Edom is that they join the Babylonians when they attack Judah and that was a negative. On their part, they should have stood with their brothers. Instead they join the Babylonians. I think Genesis 27:40 is referring to the fact that they would break up. You will serve your brother but when you rebel, you will break his yoke from your neck. And what’s that talking about is sort of the idea that you are going to not want to stay submissive, you are going to have two different worlds, you are going to have a different nation, you are going to go in a different place and I think that’s all it’s talking about and that’s exactly what happened. Does that help?

Listener:
Yah, when we do we know what happens that they got freed?

Dr Michael Rydelnik:
Right away, he goes off and has his own tribal kind of community. You could see that when Jacob’s coming back, he was afraid of Esau. But ultimately, I am not exactly sure when but some time after that Esau goes and lives across the Jordan river and establishes the nation of Edomites.

Genesis 27
40By your sword you shall live,And you shall serve your brother;And it shall come to pass, when you become restless,That you shall break his yoke from your neck.” -nkjv

Posted by: thaishin | August 21, 2019

Alexander the Great in the bible

Openline on moody radio on Aug 3, 2019

Question from listener:
Where was Alexander the Great mentioned in the bible before he showed up? and what was his impact?

Answer from Dr Michael Rydelnik:
He was mentioned in the book of Daniel. It’s in Daniel 7 and 8 that he is mentioned. I am looking at the exact place where it says it’s him. I think here it is, Daniel 8:5, “As I was observing a male goat appear coming from the west across the surface of the entire earth without touching the ground, the goat has a conspicuous horn between his eyes” and so there’s this goat that attacks the lob-sided ram, so it’s obviously a vision, a vision of the ram and the goat, but then when the interpretation is given, it seems really clear from the interpretation that later in the chapter, it’s explained that the 2 horn ram you saw represents the king of Media and Persia. Then it says the shaggy goat represents king of Greece and the large horn between his eyes represents the first king, that’s Alexander the Great. And so, the text tells us what these symbols represent and it represents the King of Greece and the first king Alexander the Great. so it’s in Daniel chapter 8 verse 5 and then in Daniel 8 verse 22.
From all that we can tell from scripture, he treated Jewish people well. Stories of his destruction of the Phoenicians, entire Sidon but in the Rabbinic writings, he was always spoken well of. He did not destroy Jerusalem, he did not do anything like that, so as best we can tell, he was tolerant and gracious towards Jewish people, although he did spread Hellenism and Hellenism later on took a real toll on Judaism.

Daniel 8

And as I was considering, suddenly a male goat came from the west, across the surface of the whole earth, without touching the ground; and the goat had a notable horn between his eyes. -nkjv

Daniel 8

21 And the male goat is the kingdom of Greece. The large horn that is between its eyes is the first king. 22 As for the broken horn and the four that stood up in its place, four kingdoms shall arise out of that nation, but not with its power. -nkjv

Posted by: thaishin | August 14, 2019

Numbers 32:23

The verse that says sin will eventually be found out

Numbers 32

23 But if ye will not do so, behold, ye have sinned against the Lord: and be sure your sin will find you out. -kjv

Numbers 32

23 But if you do not do so, then take note, you have sinned against the Lord; and be sure your sin will find you out. -nkjv

Numbers 32
23 “But if you fail to do this, you will be sinning against the Lord; and you may be sure that your sin will find you out. -niv

Numbers 32

23 But if you will not do so, behold, you have sinned against the Lord, and be sure your sin will find you out. -nasb

Question on moody radio on March 23, 2019 on openline:

How was the order of the New Testament determined that is in our English Bible?

Dr James Coakley:

That’s a very good question. Most of the time, people are surprised that it’s not by when they were written, it’s often by size. Romans start out as one of the largest of Paul’s letter and we get smaller and smaller as we go, so it’s not on a linear chronological timeline

Dr Michael Rydelnik:

First, you have the gospel, there’s some sort of chronology,  then you get Acts. When I teach Acts, I always tell everyone, here’s what I want you to do, I want you to read the first verses of Romans and see if you know what this means if you don’t have the book of Acts, it’s the great bridge from the gospels to the epistles. And then you get the letters, so you got the story of Jesus, the story of the church, the letters to the church and then the culmination with Revelation, so it’s size and chronology at the same time.

Dr James Coakley:

There’s a little bit of both but the idea is Galatians is probably one of the early ones, how come it’s not first that we read the book of Acts, it’s because they were smaller than Romans, Romans is a very key book.

Dr Michael Rydelnik:

So that’s how it was and I think that’s really important but I think there are other books that are the in-between books.

 

 

Posted by: thaishin | May 16, 2019

How was the New Testament Canon Recognized?

Question on openline moody radio on 23 March 2019:

How was the New Testament Canon recognized?

Dr Michael Rydelnik:

It was a little bit different (from how the old testament canon was recognized), don’t you think?

Dr Steven Sanchez:

In some ways it’s different, in other ways it’s the same, I think christians hear the voice of God, they know these texts, they recognized the people who are writing them, Peter is going to refer to Paul’s writings and he’s going to refer to them as scriptures, he recognized  in them the same voice of God and so in that sense, the process is not that much different, they hear God speaking in these texts and they trust them.

Dr Jim Coakley:

Even in the first century, we have Clement of Rome who was already quoting from some of these books, already eight of the books were already mentioned by 95 AD, so they were clearly being already seen as authoritative very early on.

Dr Michael Rydelnik:

It is interesting because even the New Testament is accepting it right away. Here’s what I mean by that, Jude cites Peter, Peter cites Paul as scripture and if you want to see that, that’s in 2 Peter 3:15 and 16, he even says Paul’s hard to understand.

Dr Steven Sanchesz:

Like the other scriptures …

Dr Michael Rydelnik:

Yeah and so he sets them as scripture, Paul quotes Luke as scripture, 1 Timothy 5:18, he quotes Luke 10:7, obviously he knew about Luke’s writing but he quotes it as scripture and so the New Testament is actually quoting other New Testament books and so it shows us these books were immediately being recognized as scripture and many times, the letters Paul wrote and Peter wrote and James wrote, they weren’t just written to one …

Dr Jim Coakley:

They were cyclical letters, they were being passed around …

Dr Michael Rydelnik:

Yeah. Why? Because they were considered the word of God and it was important that we recognized that it was not Constantine. Trish can confirm this, we got a lot of questions asking if Constantine decided on what books would be in the New Testament.

Related Scripture:

2 Peter 3

15 and consider that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation—as also our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given to him, has written to you, 16 as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures.  -nkjv

1 Timothy 5

18 For the Scripture Says, “You shall not muzzle an ox while it treads out the grain,” and, “The laborer is worthy of his wages.”  -nkjv

Luke 10

And remain in the same house, eating and drinking such things as they give, for the laborer is worthy of his wages. Do not go from house to house.  -nkjv

 

 

Posted by: thaishin | May 10, 2019

Mention of Joseph in Psalm 105

Psalms 105

16 Moreover He called for a famine in the land;
He destroyed all the provision of bread.
17 He sent a man before them—
Joseph—who was sold as a slave.
18 They hurt his feet with fetters,
He was laid in irons.
19 Until the time that his word came to pass,
The word of the Lord tested him.
20 The king sent and released him,
The ruler of the people let him go free.
21 He made him lord of his house,
And ruler of all his possessions,
22 To bind his princes at his pleasure,
And teach his elders wisdom.

-njkv

Posted by: thaishin | April 26, 2019

Council of Yavneh

Moody Radio openline on March 23, 2019:

Dr Michael Rydelnik:

We are talking about the old testament canon and I raised the issue of Yavneh, which is where Judaism reformed itself after the destruction of the temple, in the greek term it’s called Jamnia. Now, they have a role in determining the old testament canon, what was it?

Steven Sanchez:

Now, let’s say that it wasn’t. It wasn’t oh we got a lot of books laying around here, let’s pick a few and make a canon for ourselves.

Dr Michael Rydelnik:

Because there was already a canon …

Steven Sanchez:

They already knew what the canon was, so they are reaffirming, they are acknowledging, there are some questions at the margins, about the books that are difficult to interpret but that’s vastly different from saying let’s make a canon for ourselves and sanctify it as authoritative,

Dr Michael Rydelnik:

They already accepted the canon, we see it in the new testament,  Jesus already accepted the canon but they say well what about the song of Solomon, seems a little too sensual …

Dr Jim Coakley:

There was an ongoing discussion to see what are we going to do with this books, as Steve says, that are at the margin,  like …

Steve Sanchez:

Proverbs,  Ezekiel, Ester …

Dr Michael Rydelnik:

They think Proverbs could be illogical, why? Because one verse says answer a fool, another says don’t answer a fool instead of understanding it as wisdom,  so they are talking about that, they are talking is Ester a non spiritual book because God’s name is not mentioned,  they are talking about Ecclesiastes, it’s kind of skeptical in places,

Dr Jim Coakley:

So they are using his words as authoritative when it’s Solomon musing about life,

Dr Michael Rydelnik:

But the most influential Rabbi there, Rabbi Akiva, he kept insisting that yes these are words of God, he wasn’t saying we should include them, he was saying let’s not get rid of them, they are in the canon already.

Steven Sanchez:

That’s important. They all already know what’s in between the covers of the book.

Dr Michael Rydelnik:

I always think it’s important that we know when it comes to canon, what they are really doing is these new books were showing up, remember this is the years between 70 and 120 AD, new books are showing up, they are called the new testament, they actually allude to them, these Rabbis at Yavneh, they don’t like it. So they say these, not those, they don’t accept their authority because they are excluding the new testament from the canon. Their job is not to decide what the Hebrew canon is, what they want to is to exclude the new testament canon.

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