Posted by: thaishin | May 11, 2025

Discussion of whether Peter is the first Pope and are his bones buried at the Vatican now?

Open Line on May 3, 2025 Hour 2 @2:45

Listener:

With the Pope being in passing, being placed over what they say, he was lying in State, above the Saint Peters, who was supposedly the first Catholic Pope, his bones were buried and I found out that Peter never went to Rome at all and he was married. I don’t think he started the Catholic Church. I was reading James, the half brother of Jesus, was actually the head of the Church in Jerusalem. Straighten this out for me, where were the bones and I don’t think Peter became a Catholic.

Answer from Dr Michael Rydelnik:

https://www.moodyradio.org/radioplayer.aspx?episode=643730&hour=2

Summary of the answer:

Acts 12 is where the transfer of leadership from Peter to James occurred. That’s when Peter was released from Prison. Acts 12 tells of how the angels rescued Peter from prison and Acts 12:17 says report these things to James and the brothers. At the point in Acts 12 when Peter is ready to go travelling, James takes over from Peter.

1Peter 5:13 mentions that a lady from Babylon greets Peter. Some people think that Babylon is code for Rome and according to early church history, Peter did go to Rome.

According to MBI church historian Brian Litfin, in his book “After Acts”, he makes the case that the bones of Apostle Peter is likely to have been buried in the Vatican.

One point to note: Dr Michael Rydelnik never explicitly admit that Peter is the first Pope.

Acts 12

17 But motioning to them with his hand to keep silent, he declared to them how the Lord had brought him out of the prison. And he said, “Go, tell these things to James and to the brethren.” And he departed and went to another place. -nkjv

17 But he, beckoning unto them with the hand to hold their peace, declared unto them how the Lord had brought him out of the prison. And he said, Go shew these things unto James, and to the brethren. And he departed, and went into another place. -kjv

17 But motioning to them with his hand to be silent, he described to them how the Lord had led him out of the prison. And he said, “Report these things to James and the brothers.” Then he left and went to another place. -nasb

17 Peter motioned with his hand for them to be quiet and described how the Lord had brought him out of prison. “Tell James and the other brothers and sisters about this,” he said, and then he left for another place. -niv

1 Peter 5

13 She who is in Babylon, elect together with you, greets you; and so does Mark my son.

-nkjv

13 The church that is at Babylon, elected together with you, saluteth you; and so doth Marcus my son. -kjv

13 She who is in Babylon, chosen together with you, sends you greetings, and so does my son, Mark. -nasb

13 She who is in Babylon, chosen together with you, sends you her greetings, and so does my son Mark. -niv

Correction:

There was a correction to the title and an addition of an observation statement at the end of the summary.


Responses

  1. Quoted from:
    https://www.gty.org/library/sermons-library/90-291/the-pope-and-the-papacy
    He may have been in Rome. He may have died in Rome, but there’s no evidence. Hey say he went to Rome, pastored a church in Rome, died in Rome, is buried in Rome. St. Peter’s is supposed to be built where he was buried. There’s no evidence for that at all. One thing is certain; he never pastored a church in Rome if he ever went there. How do you know that? Well, Paul wrote Romans in the year 56, made no reference to Peter. If Peter was in Rome, there was already a church there. If Peter was the pastor of the church in Rome, why doesn’t he refer to Peter? And he greets a whole bunch of people in chapter 16; he just keeps greeting one after another after another after another. It would be pretty serious to overlook Peter.
    When Paul was later in prison in Rome, in the year 60 to 62, he wrote four letters, and he included in those letters all who came to him; he never mentions Peter. In his last letter, 2 Timothy, written in the year 64 or about that, he gives greeting to ten people in Rome – not Peter. Not Peter.
    By the way, Peter was never called to the Gentiles anyway. Galatians 2:7 and 8, you might want to look at that for just a minute. Galatians 2:7 and 8, he says, “I had been entrusted” – Paul says – “with the gospel to the uncircumcised” – to the Gentiles – “just as Peter had been to the circumcised.” Peter was never called to pastor a Gentile congregation, to take the gospel to the Gentiles. Never.
    Galatians chapter 2 talks about – verses 11 to 14 – when Peter came to Antioch, Paul had to oppose him to his face because he stood condemned because of his terrible, terrible compromise. It was he who denied the Lord, as you know. It was he who disobeyed the Lord. It was he who was cowardly.
    By the way, the head of the Jerusalem church – you might think at least Peter would be the head of the Jerusalem church, but he’s not. According to Galatians chapter 2 and Acts chapter 15, the head of the Jerusalem church was James. It was James, not Peter at all. There’s no indication whatsoever that Peter had anything to do with the city of Rome.


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