Meditations

The land and the book, moody radio, August 12, 2023 with Dr Charlie Dyer and Jon Gauger.

Question:

Jon Gauger:

Reggie takes us all the way to the end of the bible in the book of Revelation in chapter 5 verse 10 it says ” And have made us kings and priests to our God and we shall reign on earth…” but other version he says like the nasb, esv and niv have they instead of us, why is there a difference and to whom it is refering?

Answer from Dr Charlie Dyer:

https://www.moodyradio.org/radioplayer.aspx?episode=538008

At 32:04

Summary:

In KJV and NKJV, it can be inferred that when they use “us”, they are implying that the 24 elders represent humans, either the church or the church and Israel and in NASB, NIV, it can be inferred that they are implying that the 24 elders are a class of angels.

corrected from “either the church or the church in Israel”

Scripture:

Revelation 5

⁸ Now when He had taken the scroll, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb, each having a harp, and golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints. ⁹ And they sang a new song, saying:

“You are worthy to take the scroll,
And to open its seals;
For You were slain,
And have redeemed us to God by Your blood
Out of every tribe and tongue and people and nation,
¹⁰ And have made us kings and priests to our God;
And we shall reign on the earth.” -nkjv

⁸ And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints.

⁹ And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;

¹⁰ And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth. -kjv

 ⁸ When He had taken the scroll, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb, each one holding a harp and golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints. ⁹ And they *sang a new song, saying,

“Worthy are You to take the scroll and to break its seals; for You were slaughtered, and You purchased people for God with Your blood from every tribe, language, people, and nation.

¹⁰ You have made them into a kingdom and priests to our God, and they will reign upon the earth.” -nasb

 ⁸ And when he had taken it, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb. Each one had a harp and they were holding golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of God’s people. ⁹ And they sang a new song, saying:

“You are worthy to take the scroll
    and to open its seals,
because you were slain,
    and with your blood you purchased for God
    persons from every tribe and language and people and nation.
¹⁰ You have made them to be a kingdom and priests to serve our God,
    and they will reign on the earth.” -niv