Posted by: thaishin | February 10, 2023

Was that the start of the tribulation?

Open line on Feb 4, 2023 hour 2

Listener:

Hey Dr Mike, thank you for taking my call, I noticed that the Word says that the Anti-Christ is going to make false peace agreements with Israel and I was wondering if possibly the past politician that we had who went to Israel and made agreements, so much so that he even changed the location of the embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, one of his main negotiators was his son in law, who was not a diplomat or involved in …

Dr Rydelnik:

Just go ahead with your question, we know about the history.. go ahead … what is your question?

Listener:

Do you think that the former agreement will have something to do with what’s going to happen in the future in the tribulation?

Dr Rydelnik:

I see. Well… the book of 1 Thessalonians says in chapter 5, I believe, where everyone is saying peace and safety, I believe in verse 3, when they say peace and security, then sudden destruction comes on them, it does appear that the tribulation period starts in a time of peace and safety. Also the invasion in Ezekiel 38 and 39 is coming at a time when Israel is living in a time of peace because it says repeatedly in that invasion that takes place somewhere near the end of the first half of the tribulation, it takes place when people is living a time of security, it says in verse 11 for example that “I will come against a tranquil people of Israel, who are living securely, all of them living without walls or without bars or gates, that’s when the Lord says that’s the time it will happen. So, the question becomes are the Abraham Accords with the gulf states and Israel, are they the peace and safety that 1 Thessalonian 5 is talking about, that’s what your question is, correct?

Listener:

Yes. Correct.

Dr Rydelnik:

Well, I don’t think so. Because it says a little bit later in this passage in Ezekiel 38, when the invasion happens, it says Sheba and Dedan and the merchants of Tarshish with all its rulers will ask you this about the nations that invade Israel, “Have you come to see spoil? Have you assembled your horse to carry off plunder to make off with silver and gold, to take cattle and possessions and to sieze great spoils? But it doesn’t says in this passage that Sheba and Dedan join in the battle, Sheba and Dedan are gulf states, that’s what the name of the places were in biblical days. And so what it appears to be saying is and I think the merchants of Tarshish, Tarshish being in Spain, merchants of Europe, and so what it’s saying is that the gulf states and the EU, apparently, are going to be saying things like, “Are you coming to invade and if not ..”, they are just going to ask questions, not going to be part of the invasion. So, it seems to me that even in the tribulation period, the peace that’s taken by the gulf states, that doesn’t fail, those states does not invade, as part of it, as best as I can tell, I think we should do all we can in this day and age, to work for peace. I don’t think the Abraham Accords are part of the false Messiah’s peace.

Scriptures:

1 Thessalonians 5

For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. -kjv

For when they say, “Peace and safety!” then sudden destruction comes upon them, as labor pains upon a pregnant woman. And they shall not escape. -nkjv

While they are saying, “Peace and safety!” then sudden destruction will come upon them like labor pains upon a pregnant woman, and they will not escape. -nasb

While people are saying, “Peace and safety,” destruction will come on them suddenly, as labor pains on a pregnant woman, and they will not escape. -niv

Ezekiel 38

11 And thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates,

12 To take a spoil, and to take a prey; to turn thine hand upon the desolate places that are now inhabited, and upon the people that are gathered out of the nations, which have gotten cattle and goods, that dwell in the midst of the land.

13 Sheba, and Dedan, and the merchants of Tarshish, with all the young lions thereof, shall say unto thee, Art thou come to take a spoil? hast thou gathered thy company to take a prey? to carry away silver and gold, to take away cattle and goods, to take a great spoil? -kjv

11 You will say, ‘I will go up against a land of unwalled villages; I will go to a peaceful people, who dwell [d]safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates’— 12 to take plunder and to take booty, to stretch out your hand against the waste places that are again inhabited, and against a people gathered from the nations, who have acquired livestock and goods, who dwell in the midst of the land. 13 Sheba, Dedan, the merchants of Tarshish, and all their young lions will say to you, ‘Have you come to take plunder? Have you gathered your army to take booty, to carry away silver and gold, to take away livestock and goods, to take great plunder?’ -nkjv

11 and you will say, ‘I will go up against the land of unwalled villages. I will go against those who are at rest, who live securely, all of them living without walls and having no bars or gates, 12 to capture spoils and to seize plunder, to turn your hand against the ruins that are now inhabited, and against the people who are gathered from the nations, who have acquired livestock and goods, who live at the center of the world.’ 13 Sheba and Dedan and the merchants of Tarshish with all its villages will say to you, ‘Have you come to capture spoils? Have you assembled your contingent to seize plunder, to carry away silver and gold, to take away livestock and goods, to capture great spoils? -nasb

11 You will say, “I will invade a land of unwalled villages; I will attack a peaceful and unsuspecting people—all of them living without walls and without gates and bars. 12 I will plunder and loot and turn my hand against the resettled ruins and the people gathered from the nations, rich in livestock and goods, living at the center of the land.” 13 Sheba and Dedan and the merchants of Tarshish and all her villages will say to you, “Have you come to plunder? Have you gathered your hordes to loot, to carry off silver and gold, to take away livestock and goods and to seize much plunder? -niv


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